Willys Miniatures Troll Slayer seems HUGE!

[J_Bone]

It's funny...

Why we manufacturers are supposed to follow the GW scale? As far as I know, those minis are discontinued. What's the point of following a discontinued line?

In my opinion, a pretty good option is to follow the Willy Miniatures scale. At least, it's what I plan to with my brand Meiko Miniatures.

I have used quite a few Meiko miniatures in my Orc team... I like the goblins and the Sewer Troll is an absolutely fantastic piece. I picked up a Blitzer to use as a Star Player though and was glad I hadn't bought it to be a regular Blitzer as it was huge compared to the rest of the team (I do like it as a Star Player piece but I was quite lucky I think). I don't mind a bit of difference in scale... I'm not as picky as some but sometimes it just makes it harder to buy those miniatures unless you're buying an entire team made up solely from those miniatures.

On the other hand, I bought the Meiko Deathroller and actually found it to be a little on the small side even for the 2nd edition dwarves and the Willys slayer made it look ludicrous. In the end I picked up a Vortice Deathroller not just because it is a great model but because it fit in to my team far better. Most Blood Bowl players (in my experience) use a mix of miniatures which include lots of old GW stuff.

The Willys troll slayer I mentioned in this thread was a disappointment in particular purely down to it being a BEAUTIFUL miniature but literally twice the size of what is generally recognised to be the size of a dwarf in 28mm scale. If you buy a miniature from a company that is way bigger (or smaller) than you expect it to be then you may not buy from that manufacturer again! I really do like Meiko and Willys miniatures and will continue to buy them but I am aware that I have to be very careful regarding this scale issue.

One idea might be to do what I have seen some manufacturers begin to do and that is photograph their miniatures next to a block die so that the consumer can make an informed choice. I like this and think it would stop a lot of issues as people will know what to expect before they receive the miniatures.

[outcast]

One idea might be to do what I have seen some manufacturers begin to do and that is photograph their miniatures next to a block die so that the consumer can make an informed choice. I like this and think it would stop a lot of issues as people will know what to expect before they receive the miniatures.

+1

[voyagers_uk]

Some of the old marauder troll slayers with weapon snips are ideal fits.

I have some of those knocking around somewhere I am sure

[J_Bone]

I actually managed to find a pair of 3rd edition Blood Bowl Troll Slayers which fit into the team really nicely for a good price on eBay so I'm good.

I did pick up one of those dual-knife wielding troll slayers that I'm planning to convert into a cheerleader though!

[Norse]

why measure a mini next to a die, especially when other people also manufacture block die and therefore the scale is not guaranteed to be consistent.

a measurement to the eye in mm is the industry standard.... assuming we all use the same size of mm

[willy]

Hi all

now work new website , all models picture with metric ruler , also negotiate with many distribuitors for stores brith and mortar in Spain all people can go to store favorite and touch miniature , very soon all europe and USA also .


but I want models 2014 no size 80 or 90 , I want black orc size GW 2014 , dark elfs 2014 , dwarfs 2014 ... no 80s , my dwarf slayer star player is same size others miniatures special dwarfs warhammer fantasy .

I manufacture models with quality , moviment , expresion and compatible withs miniatures actual - present , if I manufacture witch elf I want size miniatures dark elf 40k , my models no compatible with miniatures second edition .

sorry for my english

[J_Bone]

why measure a mini next to a die, especially when other people also manufacture block die and therefore the scale is not guaranteed to be consistent.

a measurement to the eye in mm is the industry standard.... assuming we all use the same size of mm

The reason I suggested the block die is that I have never seen one that wasn't the standard NAF size (16mm?) and it works very well to identify the size of Ramos' sculpts on the goblin team page.

Also, I have seen other threads where people get confused as to whether the measurement to eye includes the base or not etc. With a photo next to a NAF block die it's pretty clear. Like I said though, it's just an idea.

[Chris]

If I was starting anew with too much money a 40mm pitch and willy scale models would be by far the best looking game and fit on the board. I guess as a legacy player it is too difficult to upgrade.

Still willy I think your models are a bit bigger than the old citadel 3rd edition stuff, if there is a citadel equivalent it is the last human team and the dwarf star players.

[nobby]

If you don't like them, don't use them, just don't moan at people who do use them at the end of the day. They may not fit with the old figures like Willy himself said, but that is not what he made them for. They are his own range, not GW's, things change, times move, seems like BB players do not. What a great way to entice new players in. "I will moan at you for using figures I think are too big and tower over mine". At the end of the day it's all down to personal preference, like I said, don't like them, don't use them.

[Chris]

Who is moaning? The only moan I can see is people not sure when they buy stuff how compatible it is. Seems a sensible enquiry...

[Steam Ball]

Maybe the community should create a thread with pictures of the models, if it takes so much time for the brands to provide the photos. Preferably with a ruler, simpler than trying to find the same reference miniature or discussing if the dice are non standard.

[J_Bone]

If you don't like them, don't use them... What a great way to entice new players in. "I will moan at you for using figures I think are too big and tower over mine"

Nobody has moaned or said anything like this... We are purely discussing the issue of scale with regards to building up your own teams which don't look too daft. You might want to read the posts...

[J_Bone]

Actually, funnily enough I have never been moaned at for using larger miniatures or heard of anyone moaning at somebody for this but people have moaned at me at tournaments over using 2nd edition orcs as they don't think the black orcs are big enough... I always make sure to point out who is who before the game and it is pretty clear from the sculpts but I have had a few people mention it. I have never heard of anybody saying somebody else's team is too big though.