Piling On and Ball & Chain

[Darkson]

Just seen a post about this on FB, and it's something I hadn't seen or though of before.

B&C player takes Piling On. If they use it (say on the last turn of a half just before they're sent off) then they've been Place Prone (rather than Knocked Down) and is therefore no Turnover.

Is that correct, or have I (and the ones discussing it on FB) missed something?

[Regash]

I've just read both skills descriptions and the turnover conditions.
Nope, it shouldn't be a turnover but you'd still have to make the injury roll for the B&C player.

But that leads me to another question:
Let's say, the B&C uses Piling on and beats the armour, causing a CAS.
Then you make the injury roll for the B&C and cause a CAS as well.

Do both players get 2 SPP?

[gregory_n_white]

Id say that the opposition team get a cas but opposition player = no. Its similar to failing a dodge - the opposition player who forced you to make the dodge doesnt get spp if you get injured.

[birdman37]

I don't reckon Ball and Chain players can use Piling On at all.

The player may use this skill after he has made a block as part of one of his Block or Blitz actions...

Players armed with a Ball and Chain can only take Move actions...

[lunchmoney]

I don't reckon Ball and Chain players can use Piling On at all.

The player may use this skill after he has made a block as part of one of his Block or Blitz actions...

Players armed with a Ball and Chain can only take Move actions...

Bingo!

[harvestmouse]

Yes, B&Cs don't make block actions.

[Darkson]

Good shout. It's a shame it's not mentioned in either skill, given that both skills mention other skills that can't be used.

[Regash]

Oh, wow...
Read it but didn't see it!