Does a failed bonehead carries over to the next drive?

narkotic · Post by **narkotic** » Thu Apr 10, 2003 7:41 pm

Just picked this up at the official BB forum. A guy said that he dislikes it when his Ogre fails its bonehead roll, loses its TZ and then the drive ends. So he has to set up him and he has still no TZ bc. in the rules it's written that you recover from bonehead only when you roll a 2+ for your next action.

The way he plays seems weird, but if you read the rules that is the way.

I'm confused as I naturally (and everyone I know) assumed that the effect ends when a new kick-off is made...

Dark Lord (retired) · Post by **Dark Lord (retired)** » Thu Apr 10, 2003 7:49 pm

I don't know. The rule book says he loses his tackle zone until he manages to roll something other than a one at the start of an action. It doesn't say he regains it at the end of a drive.

That said, I have always played it that he regains it. It just makes more sense. BBRC needs to fix this.

Agentrock · Post by **Agentrock** » Thu Apr 10, 2003 7:51 pm

I'd say that during the next kickoff setup your coach/assistant coach/another player/or even a fan would rush the field and slap the guy to pay attention.

Seriously though, I'd say that they would have a TZ at the start of any kickoff drive...they have to be moved into position for the next kickoff anyway, right? So with that thinking, they wouldn't be under the bonehead influence, right?

sean newboy · Post by **sean newboy** » Thu Apr 10, 2003 7:58 pm

They should have a tz when they start any drive. If a ko can come back so can a bonehead.

Edited for clarity.

narkotic · Post by **narkotic** » Thu Apr 10, 2003 7:59 pm

You're right, but what if somebody shows you the rulebook and demands that your Troll is still really stupid? Seems a loophole to me...

sean newboy · Post by **sean newboy** » Thu Apr 10, 2003 8:03 pm

Alrite if he is still really stupid then he gets placed in the same spot he was b4 the drive ended. Even if that is in the other teams Half.

Agentrock · Post by **Agentrock** » Thu Apr 10, 2003 8:07 pm

Well, if that were the case, I'd try using this defense for the time being:

On page 16 of the LRB:
"RESTARTING THE MATCH
After a touchdown has been scored, and at the start of the second half, play is restarted and the match continues. Before the kick-off however each coach should roll one dice for each KO’d player on his team. On a roll of 4, 5 or 6 the player is fit enough to return to play, but on any other result they must stay in the KO’d box in the Dugout.

Both coaches may then set up any fit players just as they did at the start of the game."

None of the negative skills are considered injuries, so any player suffering from a negative skill at the end of a drive would be considered "fit" and would be allowed to be set up and used normally until they failed their negative skill again.

Artificial Penguin · Post by **Artificial Penguin** » Sun Apr 13, 2003 3:18 am

narkotic wrote:You're right, but what if somebody shows you the rulebook and demands that your Troll is still really stupid? Seems a loophole to me...

If somebody pulls that crap, just kick 'em in the nuts. They won't try it again.

Corlus · Post by **Corlus** » Mon Apr 14, 2003 1:21 pm

I second the kicking in the nuts

Post by **GalakStarscraper** » Mon Apr 14, 2003 1:30 pm

Corlus wrote:I second the kicking in the nuts

hmmmm ... I wonder if this would a better penalty system at the GenCon Bowl than the yellow and red cards ....

Galak

Redfang · Post by **Redfang** » Mon Apr 14, 2003 1:31 pm

kick them in the nuts; the only way to go in this case...

(Though hitting them on the head real hard might give a better long-term tactical advantage, this option should also be considered)

R

sean newboy · Post by **sean newboy** » Mon Apr 14, 2003 1:50 pm

Though hitting them on the head real hard might give a better long-term tactical advantage, this option should also be considered)

Most coaches are very hard headed, make sure that if u exercise this method to use a very solid object.

Agentrock · Post by **Agentrock** » Mon Apr 14, 2003 1:52 pm

If you turned to hitting them in the head you could possibly get them to agree on many points that'd be in your interest...

Redfang · Post by **Redfang** » Mon Apr 14, 2003 2:27 pm

Hmm, you could be right there. Maybe I should try that sometime.

R

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Mon Apr 14, 2003 3:07 pm

what if you are playing a female?

oh hold on what am i saying, you aren't playing in the kitchen so there won't be any