Can I use accurate and strong arm on the same throw?

green giant · Post by **green giant** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 8:45 am

everything is in the topic.

Redfang · Post by **Redfang** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 9:12 am

Yes, Strong Arm is not a skill and does not modify the Dice Roll, it just influences what range you pass at.

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green giant · Post by **green giant** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 9:25 am

thx

does it mean a HE thrower throws bombs on 3+?

Redfang · Post by **Redfang** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 9:30 am

Yes, I think it does. Sick, isn't it

R

green giant · Post by **green giant** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 9:44 am

quite funny how things can be quite cool some times

narkotic · Post by **narkotic** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 9:53 am

Not if you roll 1, RR, 1, which happens quite often at an action that will lead to an TD

green giant · Post by **green giant** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 10:06 am

yeah, never forget about elven curse

Valen · Post by **Valen** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 1:49 pm

3+ long Bombs are way cool, and if you get the agility increase, which I have had on a High Elf thrower 2+ baby

Snew · Post by **Snew** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 3:58 pm

If you roll that 3, though, he's going to fumble the ball so his roll is either going to be accurate or a fumble. Ironic, isn't it?

Post by **DoubleSkulls** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 4:18 pm

snotsngrots wrote:If you roll that 3, though, he's going to fumble the ball so his roll is either going to be accurate or a fumble. Ironic, isn't it?

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Accurate & Strong arm means he only ever fumbles on a '1', so a '2' would be inaccurate. Unless of course he's got +AG too.

Pitch Dark · Post by **Pitch Dark** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 6:05 pm

A natural one is always a fumble, isnt it?

narkotic · Post by **narkotic** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 6:55 pm

@Pitch dark: yes, a natural 1 is a fumble, regardless of any modifiers. Also, a 1 after the dice roll (due to modifications) is a fumble. some coaches mix modifiers and the target number for convenience, but that results in a wrong (lower) fumble range.

@to the rest:

An AG5 Elf with acurate and strong arm fumbles a long bomb only on 1

Target number: 2
Long bomb becomes long pass due to strong arm: pass modifier -1
Accurate: pass modifier +1

Success: 2+
Fumble: 1
Failure: not possible

If the Elf has AG4 (still with Strong Arm and Accurate)
Target number: 3
Long bomb gets long pass due to strong arm: pass modifier -1
Accurate: pass modifier +1

Success: 3+
Fumble: 1
Failure: 2

Don't forget that accurate changes the modifier, not the terget number, so it decreases the change for a fumble.

Colin · Post by **Colin** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 7:21 pm

Good job Narkotic.

Anyway bottom line is - Fairies make me sick!!!

Snew · Post by **Snew** » Wed Apr 16, 2003 9:48 pm

ianwilliams wrote:
snotsngrots wrote:If you roll that 3, though, he's going to fumble the ball so his roll is either going to be accurate or a fumble. Ironic, isn't it?
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Accurate & Strong arm means he only ever fumbles on a '1', so a '2' would be inaccurate. Unless of course he's got +AG too.

Yep, forgot what the topic was about. I'm with Torg.