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Pitch Dark · Post by **Pitch Dark** » Sun May 18, 2003 5:02 pm

but does a ogre that fail bonehead count as assist? I have guard on my ogre, and hes on the LOS between two chaoswarriors. Now, I fail the ogre bonehead, do the cw's still have strength 5 from the guard of the ogre??

Pitch Dark · Post by **Pitch Dark** » Sun May 18, 2003 5:04 pm

also happened to me yeasterday, i pushed an opponent into the ball, wich scatters to me, the blocker, is it a turnover if i cant catch it. No, how can i PROVE that it isnt to my opponent? I need that text, because I cant find it anywhere.

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Sun May 18, 2003 5:10 pm

um its only a turnover if it says in the rulebook it is, if it doesn't say it is a turnover then well it isn't

it doesn't say that moving a player isn't a turnover so surely moving causes a turnover???!?!

failing a catch isn't a turnover, failing a pickup or a pass not finishing in the hands of your team is

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Sun May 18, 2003 5:44 pm

Pitch Dark wrote:but does a ogre that fail bonehead count as assist? I have guard on my ogre, and hes on the LOS between two chaoswarriors. Now, I fail the ogre bonehead, do the cw's still have strength 5 from the guard of the ogre??

At present, yes he can give an assist, but as he doesn't have a TZ he can't stop the oppo giving counter assists.

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Sun May 18, 2003 5:45 pm

It's not a turnover to fail to catch (pick up) a bouncing ball.

Editted cos I screwed up while typing

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Sun May 18, 2003 5:57 pm

of course its not fool succeeding stuff is never a turnover ;]

Pitch Dark · Post by **Pitch Dark** » Mon May 19, 2003 6:53 am

Does one do the follow up or the scatter first? Cause if its a follow up it would also be a pick up.

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Mon May 19, 2003 6:54 am

i believe you follow up then do the scatter

Robotorz · Post by **Robotorz** » Mon May 19, 2003 10:42 am

Yeah thats the way you work it out, at least this seems logicaly since:
You have to decide if you follow up BEFORE the Av/Inj Roll and you scatter the Ball after that. (or dont scatter at all if player is hurt or KO)

Just my 2 cents.

Nighthawk · Post by **Nighthawk** » Mon May 19, 2003 11:17 am

It doesn't scatter when the player is hurt or KO'd ???

I'd say it does since the player falls anyway, thereby resulting in a scatter.

Apart from that, follow-up is first

Pitch Dark · Post by **Pitch Dark** » Mon May 19, 2003 4:55 pm

In my league its generally considered that a failed catch in this case is a turn over, I need the lrb-test to prove them wrong. But I cant find it, where can I?

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Mon May 19, 2003 4:57 pm

i posted near the top of this page the rules

the specific section you will want is the list of turnovers on page 8

Post by **Dave** » Mon May 19, 2003 8:22 pm

Robotorz wrote:Yeah thats the way you work it out, at least this seems logicaly since:
You have to decide if you follow up BEFORE the Av/Inj Roll and you scatter the Ball after that. (or dont scatter at all if player is hurt or KO)

Just my 2 cents.

never played it this way but now I see it as such.. hmmmm

krybosis · Post by **krybosis** » Sun Jun 08, 2003 2:18 pm

For the ball thing, absolutely no turnover!
EDIT: I checked the rules and in fact, yes, the ogre can give an assist but not prevent enemy assisting!

berserker · Post by **berserker** » Wed Jun 11, 2003 9:46 am

Robotorz wrote:or dont scatter at all if player is hurt or KO

Huh?
Is this a house rule, cuz the rulebook says "A player who falls over will drop the ball if he was carrying it, and it will bounce one square in a random direction." So even if the player leave the pitch you should scatter the ball IMHO.

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