Is there a chance for this to become official ?

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Wed Apr 30, 2003 10:14 pm

I voted no. Not saying it's a bad idea, ust don't think it'll ever be official.

JasonC · Post by **JasonC** » Wed Apr 30, 2003 10:57 pm

Whats next 1 SPP for throwing the ball to an empty square?

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Wed Apr 30, 2003 11:23 pm

JasonC wrote:Whats next 1 SPP for throwing the ball to an empty square?

Great idea! Just what my skaven thrower needs, as he can't hrow it to players

Babs · Post by **Babs** » Wed May 14, 2003 10:48 am

There's zero chance - because I'm on the BBRC! NYAH!

Seriously, we want Big guys to be _less_ potent, not more - hence the idea of giving the big guys more SPP's goes down like a lead balloon.

While being consistent is cool - and let's face it an accurate pass with a big guy is probably worth the 1 SPP, the fact is an completed pass with a big guy (and the li'l guy has the ball) is likely to net you 3 SPP's anyway, and really tick the heck out of your opponent anyway - do you really need to make it four SPP's to add salt to the wound?

Real teams with real players don't need big lugs on their line of scrimmage!
(like dark elves - yeah!)

Players against rule & power creep...

chsic · Post by **chsic** » Wed May 14, 2003 12:26 pm

I answered NO because I think as galak (no risk of turnover) and I would forbid to throw a team mate on a opponent player (diversion of rules) because this tactics disorders the rules of the deathroller.

gutterboy · Post by **gutterboy** » Thu Jun 05, 2003 4:04 pm

We have a slightly different rule in our league- if the throw is successful and the stunty player lands successfully, the big guy receives HALF an SPP, regardless of whether the throw was accurate or not.

This seems to resolve most difficulties.

wesleytj · Post by **wesleytj** » Thu Jun 05, 2003 11:32 pm

gutterboy wrote:We have a slightly different rule in our league- if the throw is successful and the stunty player lands successfully, the big guy receives HALF an SPP, regardless of whether the throw was accurate or not.

This seems to resolve most difficulties.

half an spp?!

Post by **Dave** » Thu Jun 05, 2003 11:42 pm

good one babs. This would make them take more time to get PO. Isn't that one of your hot items Toby ??

Toby · Post by **Toby** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 6:28 am

Your logic is strange. This makes Big Guys need Piling On even more.

The cance to throw an ACCURATE pass with an AG1 or 2 Player most of the time in the line of scrimmage is next to zero. Then the little one carriying the ball if he hasn't already been eaten landing on his feet is another issue.

I would like to see big guys leveling up by taking risky TTM scoring attempts rather than picking the usual route, get piling on and go for casualties at all cost.

First skill on a Troll should be pass.

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 6:49 am

Toby wrote:First skill on a Troll should be pass.

So you always roll doubles for your first skill?

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 6:50 am

Toby wrote:Your logic is strange. This makes Big Guys need Piling On even more.

Hah! Kettle, pot, black springs to mind.

Post by **Dave** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 9:50 am

Toby wrote:Your logic is strange. This makes Big Guys need Piling On even more.

The cance to throw an ACCURATE pass with an AG1 or 2 Player most of the time in the line of scrimmage is next to zero. Then the little one carriying the ball if he hasn't already been eaten landing on his feet is another issue.

I would like to see big guys leveling up by taking risky TTM scoring attempts rather than picking the usual route, get piling on and go for casualties at all cost.

First skill on a Troll should be pass.

perhaps, if you roll a double.

If I could get SPP by makin TTM my Big Guy would get PO or Block only faster. He'd have two ways of getting SPP then, cas and Comp!
It would only work if you gave them no SPP for cas, and that's silly

Toby · Post by **Toby** » Sat Jun 07, 2003 1:43 am

To throw accurate with a Troll you need to roll a 6.
To not eat the guy you ned not to roll a 1.
To land on your feet you need to roll a 3+

Thats 1/6*5/6*4/6 or 20/216 or 10%

For every 1 Starplayer Point your Big Guy Earns you get 9 Turnovers, and 9 Armour rolls for the little fellow.

And if you used Throw Team Mate every second turn you would earn 1 Starplayer Point per game. How abusive.

Sputnik · Post by **Sputnik** » Sat Jun 07, 2003 6:08 am

Toby wrote:

Thats 1/6*5/6*4/6 or 20/216 or 10%

For every 1 Starplayer Point your Big Guy Earns you get 9 Turnovers, and 9 Armour rolls for the little fellow.

And if you used Throw Team Mate every second turn you would earn 1 Starplayer Point per game. How abusive.

I am not good at match, but know that people will field an ogre instead of a troll most of the time. Could you please calculate this again for an AG2 player and bear in mind that you can use a rr for the landing attempt, too?

We might get more realistic numbers for a possible abuse!

How many turnovers will I create then, and how much chance of success will there be?

Oh, and while we speak about turnovers: just imagine me playing orcs with a newly added ogre and three gobbos, let's say against dwarfs. I could throw a gobbo (with the ball) way back in my half after kickoff as the last action of my turn! My opponent won't get the ball in case of losing it. I don't really mind the turnover but might get a SPP and I don't need my ogre upfront, too. It's easier to gain a SPP in this way than to hope for a casualty against a longbeard

I know of quite a few players who would try this from time to time once the match would allow this to get block/pro/PO/whatever a bit faster.

Sputnik

Post by **Dave** » Sat Jun 07, 2003 10:25 am

no turnover when the player thrown is not carrying the ball when he falls.
So your figures are right for ball carrying players, quite wrong if they don't

Talk Fantasy Football

Is there a chance for this to become official ?

Award one "Starplayer Point" for a perfect "Throw Teammate Action"?

Totally being flippant and sarcastic - do not take seriously

SPPs for throw team-mate

Re: SPPs for throw team-mate