Hard TR Caps vs Negative Winnings+Freebooted Apoths

Joemanji · Post by **Joemanji** » Fri May 21, 2004 3:20 pm

Eh?

narkotic · Post by **narkotic** » Fri May 21, 2004 3:31 pm

Negative winnings/TBB package seems to have been dropped, now where he vault has introduced sweeteners.

Have negative winnings table + freebooted Apos (for 10K) been playtested by anyone so far?

Post by **DoubleSkulls** » Fri May 21, 2004 3:46 pm

narkotic wrote:Have negative winnings table + freebooted Apos (for 10K) been playtested by anyone so far?

divX on FUMBBL uses these rules. They seem to have worked pretty well.

Joemanji · Post by **Joemanji** » Fri May 21, 2004 4:26 pm

MBBL2 uses them. Don't know to what effect.

Mirascael · Post by **Mirascael** » Fri May 21, 2004 5:14 pm

ianwilliams wrote:
narkotic wrote:Have negative winnings table + freebooted Apos (for 10K) been playtested by anyone so far?
divX on FUMBBL uses these rules. They seem to have worked pretty well.

Yep, coaching several divX teams myself I can confirm that.
And fumbbl hasn't even implemented the extended income bands beyond TR 300.

duff · Post by **duff** » Sat May 22, 2004 2:11 am

I'm not a fan of hard TR caps.
As a former Australian politician said "It's not natural, I don't like it"

Alesdair · Post by **Alesdair** » Tue May 25, 2004 10:45 am

It surprising that Jervis went for the hard caps in the Vault (well more of a soft cap)... when it seems just 2% of the TBB voting public like them... but hey... hard cap, though rough and painful, is an easy solution to the problem...

Joemanji · Post by **Joemanji** » Tue May 25, 2004 10:56 am

It isn't a hard cap!

A hard cap is one that cannot be passed. A hard cap of TV 200 would mean your team could not physically have the skills or winnings that would take them over TV 200.

Hache · Post by **Hache** » Tue May 25, 2004 3:17 pm

Nazgit wrote:It isn't a hard cap! A hard cap is one that cannot be passed. A hard cap of TV 200 would mean your team could not physically have the skills or winnings that would take them over TV 200.

Indeed, it's not a hard cap ! It's a very-soft-for-high-AV-but-not-so-soft-for-low-AV cap ! It's a cap, period. I prefer scaled winnings.

Hache

Pitch Dark · Post by **Pitch Dark** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 10:23 pm

Voted for the package, though im not sure that I like that negativ income should count on the TR. I see a downwards spiral for the team, playing with all that handicap against it.
I cant see the fun in that, having put so much time and effort into developing the team. The negative income does not in effect make the team any better, and so the handicaps to the opponent would be unfair.

I think this package would work as well without adding n. income to the TR. The team would slowly stagnate at a TR, only increasing with new skills, and thus allowing other teams to close in.

Im also in favor of selling players for the cost they where bought, and with modifications for skills, stats and injuries, as was suggested by someone. This way you would feel a little more content getting rid of your players.

Is it just me that get really attached to them?

Alesdair · Post by **Alesdair** » Wed Nov 10, 2004 2:27 am

we have installed -ve winnings...
and my 230+TR choas team played agianst a team with only 1 FF... and lost...

and then rolled 1 on the income... and had no spare cash
so my income was -2, which count as postive two for TR...

I'm not complaining, that's just how it is now...

It's not a really issue... i have 16 fans... very little chance of my treasury staying negitve after next match...

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Hard TR Caps vs Negative Winnings+Freebooted Apoths

To encourage long term league balance which would you rather see tested?