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Gus · Post by **Gus** » Sat Dec 04, 2004 8:45 pm

@sallacious
if everyone has to say "good job" at everyone else's work, even when they think it sucks (and i mean no offense by that, if _I_ were to paint right now, it would SUCK and if someone told me "good job" he would be a liar), then it will make comments tedious to go through...

Xtreme · Post by **Xtreme** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 2:32 am

Personaly I welcome ideas on how to improve my painting, I don't need anyone to pat me on the back, so any negative comments as long as they explain what they don't like or how I can improve in a certain area are welcomed by me.

EmperorNorton · Post by **EmperorNorton** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 11:12 am

Deathwing wrote:Opinion was honest, criticism was intended as constructive. Sorry, but there you are. What do you want, only nice comments?
Not bothering to finish the base and then sticking it in a painting comp is just plain lazy IMO, regardless of skill level. And I believe I'm only stating what a lot of others are thinking.

No, I don't only want nice comments, but I want constructive criticism this side of rude. How should a comment like "get proper brushes" help me?
Concerning the base, I thought it wasn't necessary, because the rules say it isn't necessary...

Gus · Post by **Gus** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 1:58 pm

"get proper brushes" should mayeb drive you to examine your brushes, which maybe are not in excellent condition ?

and in the rules, it says that basing is not needed but is welcome. why didn't you do it to be more welcome then ? that kind of reasonning can be applied as well...

EmperorNorton · Post by **EmperorNorton** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 2:51 pm

Normally I just leave my bases painted in green and so far I never have used static grass. So I didn't go to buy something I probably won't use again to do something not required to enter this miniature painting contest.

And my brushes are in a good condition, as far as I can see. I wonder how anyone could possibly come to a different conclusion without seeing them.

Deathwing · Post by **Deathwing** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 3:02 pm

I just made a massive and hopefully more constructive/helpful post about shading/highlighting etc and lost it while editing it..

..won't repeat it now but will do so over the next coupla days.
Part of it though was about neatness and how good brushes help with that, looks like there's flesh all over the chain on the l/hand side of the phig, which leads me to believe there's something not right with your brushes..size/quality/condition/whatever.

EmperorNorton · Post by **EmperorNorton** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 3:25 pm

Deathwing wrote:Part of it though was about neatness and how good brushes help with that, looks like there's flesh all over the chain on the l/hand side of the phig, which leads me to believe there's something not right with your brushes..size/quality/condition/whatever.

No, that was pure clumsiness on my part. I hadn't even noticed, so thanks for pointing it out.
I've just corrected it and my brushes worked fine.

Sallacious · Post by **Sallacious** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 5:13 pm

Being honest and being blatently rude are two different things. Saying... you are just being lazy blah blah blah is one thing (rude), suggesting someone to use a product and to tell them about a technique you know will assist them is another (proper). I'm not saying everything is all candy and butterflies... but really... there are ways of saying things that will not only make people better painters, but will encourage them to enter over and over again. What fun is a painting competition with 2 entries.

One other point is that for a newbie, the paintjob they did WAS good... good for their level. Let's help them get to a higher level. Not tell them that their paint job is crap and go learn how to paint.

Call me crazy... but last time I checked, this wasn't supposed to be a flame board

Sallacious · Post by **Sallacious** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 5:15 pm

Gus wrote:@sallacious
if everyone has to say "good job" at everyone else's work, even when they think it sucks (and i mean no offense by that, if _I_ were to paint right now, it would SUCK and if someone told me "good job" he would be a liar), then it will make comments tedious to go through...

There is always "good effort"

I look for a person's positive and then explain what i think they could to do "improve"

Come on.. why do people have to state the obvious. Sure a model doesn't look like LongFang's... how many do? Give me a break and give others a break too.

Sallacious · Post by **Sallacious** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 5:42 pm

How much longer for voting? I am curious to find out who entered what.

juck101 · Post by **juck101** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 5:46 pm

cant believe people cant be a bit negative even in a painting comp

Sallacious · Post by **Sallacious** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 5:52 pm

Define negative first

I didn't say you can't be negative. Hell... I told someone that the face they painted didn't look right. Is that POSITIVE? MAN... what is wrong with you people. You want negative...fine... i will give YOU negative. Read the damn post properly you moron!!! NEGATIVE enough for you? I said you don't have to be RUDE...R..U...D...E! Man... open your eyes pal.

Now... that was rude.... get it?
There is ways of stating the obvious without being rude is all i was saying. You dont have to look at someone's paintjob and go

WOW...great paint job ... while in your mind going "puke". It's fine to say you don't like something... but if you do... it's always proper to say why. Let the painter see your point and if they like your point(s), perhaps they can apply them.

Deathwing · Post by **Deathwing** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 7:27 pm

This is getting ridiculous. Keep the toys in the prams please.

Sallacious · Post by **Sallacious** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 7:46 pm

Deathwing wrote:This is getting ridiculous. Keep the toys in the prams please.

I agree with the first part... the second part I have no idea what the hell that means

Gus · Post by **Gus** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 8:56 pm

sorry, no politically correct from me... i did not comment on the figs because i didn't want to hurt some of the painters, because some figs are really bad. now is it important ? no. will they improve ? of course they will. as i said, if i were to start painting now, it would certainly be awful. but that doesn't mean some of the paintings aren't of a very low quality. and again, saying "this painting is bad" does not equal saying "OMG YOU MORON YOU SUCK SO BAD CUT YOUR HAND INSTEAD OF PAINTING NEXT TIME".

politically correct SUCKS, that's sure.

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