8 sided block dice

duff · Post by **duff** » Sat May 28, 2005 4:55 am

Since the 8 sider is the only dice which HAS to be used for BB (scatter), and could easily be adapted for skill rolls, the only sticking point would be the block, so here gos -

1 Tripped on Bootlaces! the attacking player falls in his own square

2 Pushback

3 Pushback

4 Glancing blow, a player with dodge can move with it and is pushed back, others are knocked back and down

5 Stalemate Both players stand there, neither gaining the upper hand

6 Grapple, both players hang on to each other and danca a few steps. A playeer with the wrestle skill can still put his opponent down in their own square

7 Mutual destruction, only skilled players (those with block) remain standing, others fall on the spot.

8 Clean hit, the opponent is knocked back and down

This wil also reduce the effect of block (for better or worse) and dodge by adding more results where they don't help

ghostblood.dk · Post by **ghostblood.dk** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 1:38 pm

Nice idea.

Mad Jackal · Post by **Mad Jackal** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:04 pm

Not bad I say.

Not bad. I'd feel better about it after seeing games played and played in it, but right now it does not appear offensive.

I do like the inclusion of the Vault skills directly into the dice. Does this mean wrestle will now not apply to the previous block skull result ( your number 7 now?)

Colin · Post by **Colin** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 4:32 am

Wrestle's not an official skill.

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:53 am

duff · Post by **duff** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 2:12 am

Mad Jackal wrote: I do like the inclusion of the Vault skills directly into the dice. Does this mean wrestle will now not apply to the previous block skull result ( your number 7 now?)

Yes

Eagleflight Paladins · Sun Jun 05, 2005 1:20 pm

Won't it be even harder to take a blodge guy down this way (if you don't have tackle or grapple)

And blocks will also become alot less risky for block guys, we'd see alot more one die lock I believe. At first glance I'm against these rules. But hey, we'll see what playtesting brings up.

duff · Post by **duff** » Wed Jul 06, 2005 2:23 am

It's occured to me a side effect of more people standing after blocks will be to increase the value of skills like sidestep, stand firm, push and sideswipe - for good or ill.

Skummy · Post by **Skummy** » Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:30 am

Eagleflight makes an excellent point there. Odds of knocking someone down on a basic hit would go down a lot with the d8. Change the fundamentals too much all at once, and you've got a very different game.

Meradanis · Post by **Meradanis** » Wed Jul 06, 2005 10:19 am

As a skaven trainer, I like this idea !
Less people going down means more rats on the field.
As an orc trainer, I dislike it !
Less people going down means less VSA's and more opponents on the field.

My personal (objective?) opinion: This method would change balance too much. You've got to rework the whole game including many skills to make it work.
Another point: The d8 isn't the best die to make an actual 'roll', a dice shaker would be necessary.