Not Fielding Any Players! Is this Legal??

KnuckleGutKiller · Post by **KnuckleGutKiller** » Mon Dec 23, 2002 1:27 am

I just played my Dwarf team for the second time verse Wood Elfs and I put all his players but 4 out of the game before the second half!
The problem is my damm opponent wont field any players! Yes NONE! I told him the rules say he must place 3 players on the front line he said the first paragraph prior to it saying 3 players must be on the front line states he MAY field up to 11 players so he choose to field none. Thats bull crap!

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Mon Dec 23, 2002 1:32 am

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Q: Do I have to field 11 players (or my entire team if I have less than 11 available)?
A: No. The only restriction is that 3 players must be placed on the Line of Scrimmage. So you may set up 3-11 players at a kick-off.

Answer directly from the BBRC 2002 rules review.

grimfang · Post by **grimfang** » Mon Dec 23, 2002 5:55 am

that could also fall under the category of "concede 1 touchdown"...
oh... and good job! just move a little faster next time to get the other 4!

TiMuN · Post by **TiMuN** » Mon Dec 23, 2002 9:01 am

So .. what happens if, at any time after a TD is scored, the opponent can't field at least 3 players on the field? Does he lose the game? Does he have to put the 2 or 1 players at the line of screemage?

We have house ruled that you don't have to put them in the line, only if your having less than 3 elegible players ... any other house rules around?

kaboom · Post by **kaboom** » Mon Dec 23, 2002 12:56 pm

yes, he loose the game

Post by **GalakStarscraper** » Mon Dec 23, 2002 2:09 pm

TiMuN wrote:So .. what happens if, at any time after a TD is scored, the opponent can't field at least 3 players on the field? Does he lose the game? Does he have to put the 2 or 1 players at the line of screemage?

We have house ruled that you don't have to put them in the line, only if your having less than 3 elegible players ... any other house rules around?

The greater detail behind the 2002 Rules Review is at:
http://www.midgardbb.com/BBRC_HotList.html

From that page:

What happens if you can only field 1 or 2 players for a drive (ie less than the required 3 on the LOS) is it an automatic concession or does the game go on? What if a team has NO players in reserve to field? I've seen the scenario where Wood Elves are up by 2 TDs with 3 turns left in the 2nd half but the entire team is either KO'd or Injured ... what happens? We've played that the opposing team takes the field alone and continues playing, but is this correct? ... need some wording for guidance.
BBRC response: The game continues as long as the opposing coach does not conceed

So there is your answer ... sorry kaboom its not an automatic win.

Galak

Snew · Post by **Snew** » Mon Dec 23, 2002 5:03 pm

Galak, you keep touting your hotlist. I think it's great. I have to question, though, the "officialness" of it. many of those items are ones the BBRC didn't comment on. Now Chet sees things a lot like I do so I don't mind having him as the Commishioner's Commishioner but the fact is that some of those ansewrs just don't have an official answer.

Post by **GalakStarscraper** » Mon Dec 23, 2002 5:26 pm

snotsngrots wrote:Galak, you keep touting your hotlist. I think it's great. I have to question, though, the "officialness" of it.

Okay several items here.
1) The Hot List was used by the BBRC to create the Rules Review. Look at the items on the official review ... they all came from the Hot List. I hoping to have this be a trend in the future.

2) If its not on the Review than its not OFFICIAL. That said, its a lot better than random TBB opinion here as it is usually based on BBRC discussion of the point that didn't make the official review for whatever reason.

3) Its not so much touting I hope as trying to help. If its personal touting, rather than an aid; I'll pack it and not do it anymore as its a heck of a lot of work. Didn't really see your comment as a personal stab, just trying to say that its there for guidance not my personal glory.

many of those items are ones the BBRC didn't comment on. Now Chet sees things a lot like I do so I don't mind having him as the Commishioner's Commishioner but the fact is that some of those answers just don't have an official answer.

Agreed. That's why the big bold statement is at the top of the webpage. Like I said if its not on the review its a least a lot better than random opinion.

Just trying to best use the info out there.

Galak

franck_le_grand · Post by **franck_le_grand** » Mon Dec 23, 2002 8:42 pm

If he refuses to set up any players, then I would consider it as he conceded the match following the rules from the LRB.

And what kind of sportsmanship is that?? (tell him I wrote that)

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Mon Dec 23, 2002 9:17 pm

if he has at least 3 he has to set them up, if he has less he can carry on setting up 1 or 2 without conceeding

if he has more than 3 he can choose to only set up 3

refusing to set up any when you have some elegible i would take as conceeding as you the rules say you have to set up 3 if you have them, any more is just your choice

Post by **GalakStarscraper** » Mon Dec 23, 2002 9:20 pm

Grumbledook wrote:if he has at least 3 he has to set them up, if he has less he can carry on setting up 1 or 2 without conceeding

if he has more than 3 he can choose to only set up 3

refusing to set up any when you have some elegible i would take as conceeding as you the rules say you have to set up 3 if you have them, any more is just your choice

Agreed ... refusing to set up 3 if you have them would be an automatic concession if I was commish over the game.

Galak

sean newboy · Post by **sean newboy** » Mon Dec 23, 2002 10:41 pm

I would at least consider it a concession of 1 td, even if there was only 1 turn left and the other team dint have a 1 turn scorer.

Joaquim · Post by **Joaquim** » Mon Dec 23, 2002 11:31 pm

And what kind of sportsmanship is that??

Perhaps the kind of sportsmanship who wants to continue playing in that league....

Isn't it better to skip the rest of this game and be ready to play another (even if not against another bashing team!!

) day?

Or is it a "stand-alone" game?

Well, anyway... it is also YOUR obligation to check if he is having any fun from it.... you know, it's because of that people play BB....

Snew · Post by **Snew** » Tue Dec 24, 2002 2:54 am

Galak, I wasn't taking any jabs at you. Some people actually think that your web page is 100% official and if it's on there, it has GW's approval. You keep refering people back to it and some of the answers to items on there are unofficial ones. Good, like I said, I like the way Chet sees things, and a great place to start, but they're still unofficial.

I think that list helps me a lot. It's just not something that I can pull out and say, "see, there it is in black, blue, and white", since the stuff is just Chet's take on what the rules actually say, were meant to say, and/or were reputed to mean when they did get brought up.

Hope you understand.

Kri · Post by **Kri** » Tue Dec 24, 2002 11:58 am

I think you should auto-lose if you can´t field atleast three players. Otherwise it´s harder for the bashing teams to win by taking out the other team.