UK Champion for 2010

tiamo69 · Post by **tiamo69** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:42 am

Joemanji wrote:
Pippy wrote:I say keep the rules as they are, but perhaps add one change:

You may not use the same race for all three of the tourneys which count towards your score.

i.e. Undead, Undead, Skaven or Dwarf, Dwarf, Wood Elf would be OK (but not Amazon, Amazon, Amazon)

(oh and the other obvious thing is to invert the scores so 1st is 10, 2nd 9 etc. – as others have said)
Yeah that sounds good to me.

just to get this topic back on track & to add my two penneth as a relative newbie who has no aspirations to become UKC...

I certainly agree that a 'true' UK Champion should be able to master & demonstrate winning ways with a variety of races (not just the ones that are pish easy to score with or just really hard to beat up)...

to keep things light hearted, how about adding a 'Compulsory Team' (selected at Random from the challenging races list) to the mix...?

but to up entertainment/challenge level make it a tad more interesting Chaos: Only Beastmen Team; add a Std Stunty Lizardmen Team, Vampire Team with only 2 Vamps; Nurgle w Rotters & Pestigors etc....

don't expect this idea to be taken seriously, but it would certainly challenge & test all potential UKC's, especially if played at a top tournament...

who knows, it might give the mortals the opportunity to get a scalp!?

NB: Not Halflings unless LRB6 rules are toned down...

rodders · Post by **rodders** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:57 am

its alarming the lack of geography knowledge out there saying Sudbury is a midlands tourney suffolk is in eastanglia anf taht part of east anglia is in whats known as south east england. Just because its not on the south coast doesn't mean its not Southern.

incedently reading to nottingham is 130 miles and sudbury to nottingham is 131

tiamo69 · Post by **tiamo69** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:06 am

rodders wrote:its alarming the lack of geography knowledge out there saying Sudbury is a midlands tourney suffolk is in eastanglia anf taht part of east anglia is in whats known as south east england. Just because its not on the south coast doesn't mean its not Southern.

incedently reading to nottingham is 130 miles and sudbury to nottingham is 131

Rodders as a 'true' midlanders (regularly moving around between Birmingham, Burton & Stafford) i've been deliberately avoiding commenting on people's grasp of geography...

Ironjaw · Post by **Ironjaw** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:30 am

rodders wrote:incedently reading to nottingham is 130 miles and sudbury to nottingham is 131

and how far is Sudbury to Scotland

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rodders · Post by **rodders** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:36 am

to glasgow 398 miles reading to glasgow is 394

Cracol · Post by **Cracol** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:43 am

I've been thinking about the uk champion theme and something just didn't feel right about it. I think it was the fact that it added an extra element of power gaming that tournaments really don't need. After all Naf rankings do the same job IMO. Therefore my suggestion for deciding a uk champion is based on what tiamo said about lower tier teams. My thoughts are:
Every naf ranked tournament should be included (yes every one)
Your top 3 finishes count towards your final score the same as it does now. However (and here's the controversal bit) only one team from each tier can score for you. I'd use the same tier system as monkeybowl to decide on teams. This would encourage any one interested in the title to take a more varied spread of teams and keeps the title light hearted. It also allows the eventual champion to demonstrate their skills across the whole of blood bowl.

Grumbledook · Post by **Grumbledook** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:11 am

whatever system is used will have flaws in it

like the idea about the team tiers though

perhaps add at least one bashy team and one agile team as well? the third could be whatever

Podfrey · Post by **Podfrey** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:51 pm

Tiers should be good and as peeps point out it keeps it in the light hearted mood it was intended.

Not like a certain, unnamed, person who has deliberately lied to the FA to ensure the footy team he manages hasn't got a game the same weekend as Spiky JUST to give him a chance to win the UK Chumpionship.

tiamo69 · Post by **tiamo69** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:53 pm

blimey, sounds like i had an 'interesting' idea......

i'd better go & have a very long lie down before Strong Bowl!

Don't worry, normal service will soon be resumed!

...

Magic Dave · Post by **Magic Dave** » Fri Sep 25, 2009 1:23 pm

Midlands!!

Don't forget that Sudbury boarders suffolk and essex.

My two cents would be that we have a UK finials, coaches would have to qualify for this event by winning a NAF tourney or having four top 4/8/16 (depending on size of tournament) finishes in the year to qualify.

The UK finals could be bolted on to an existing tournament each year so other coaches would be at the event to play and cheer on their frav coach. Each year it moves one month on and bolts onto the next tourney for that month.

We could tier the tournaments on size for the finishing spots eg the BBGT would be top 16, tournaments of about 20+ size could be top 8 and below 20+ would be top 4.

This way we don't have to worry about where the next UK Champ tourney is and some of the smaller ones might get more coaches attending if they can get a ticket to the UK finals out of it. Also it would open up to the coaches that can only make a limited number of events in the year due to kids and the like.

Just something of the top of my head, the number might not quite be right but i hope you get the idea.

Midlands!!

Joemanji · Post by **Joemanji** » Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:43 pm

I think some of the ideas coming out here are waaay to complicated. Extra tournaments, tiers etc ... woaah. This is just a little bit of fun and something to banter about. The more complicated the rules, the more chance of it being taken seriously IMO. It is just going to lead to arguments about all the variables.

Let's just keep it simple:

1) Invert the points scoring to make keeping a running total easier (top 10 only). E.g. 10 points for 1st position.

2) Maybe introduce a race restriction. I don't mind. I liked Pippy's as a compromise (you can't have all 3 scores using the same race). But definitely no tiers.

3) Thick about replacing Spiky. Can the Southern coaches think of another tournament down there instead of Carrot Crunch? It should be well run, have a good atmosphere, of a good size, not be completely out of the way and be competitive.

Joemanji · Post by **Joemanji** » Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:49 pm

Oh I have added Carrot Crunch to the map of UKC tournaments for comparitive purposes.

Darkson · Post by **Darkson** » Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:52 pm

Sudbury is officially NOT in the South.

Magic Dave · Post by **Magic Dave** » Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:59 pm

Your right!

but it's not in the Midlands now is it!

mattwhile · Post by **mattwhile** » Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:33 pm

Why not add Carrot Crunch to the Midlands (I know it's not Midlands) anyway? That would leave three in each region.

You could then possibly swap Spikey for Albion Coast? (That is definately south.

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